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Poster: stratocaster Date: May 19, 2013 4:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: TDIH 1974 Portland

http://www.archive.org/details/gd74-05-19.sbd.clugston.6957.sbeok.shnf

This is a pretty good source, there is a more pumped up sbd source but the bass is oversatuated...

Check this show out if you hadn't before...old timers recognize this one as one of the true classics of the 1974 Wall of Sound...China>Rider is fantastic, perhaps the best pre retirement Wharf Rats, great Peggy-O, but the Truckin>Jam>Mind Left Body>NFA>GDTRFB is a truly outstanding sequence...wow...love this show...also contains one of the more annoying Donna screams during the Scarlet Begonias,

Set 1
Mississippi Half Step, Mexicali Blues, Big Railroad Blues, Black Throated Wind, Scarlet Begonias, Beat It On Down The Line, Loose Lucy, Money Money, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider Promised Land,

Set 2
Bertha-> Greatest Story Ever Told, Weather Report Suite Prelude-> Weather Report Suite Part 1-> Let It Grow-> Wharf Rat, Big River, Peggy-O, Truckin'-> Mind Left Body Jam-> Not Fade Away-> Goin' Down The Road Feelin' Bad-> One More Saturday Night

E: U.S. Blues

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Poster: birdlives Date: May 20, 2013 5:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

Just to jump in, instead of "hitting" on Donna, why would anyone in the band (including Jerry) let Weir play slide??

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: May 19, 2013 4:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

More annoying screams? That does not do it justice. This is her single worst moment with the band. Hell it might be the single worst moment in recorded music history. Great show despite Donna's less than stellar moment.

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Poster: dark.starz Date: May 19, 2013 8:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

"We was havin a high time, living the good life, well well you know ...

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Poster: craven714 Date: May 20, 2013 7:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

You documented this one well elbow. I consider Donna
putting her fingerprint on it. You know exactly what date
this one is. I tend to turn it up or down at that part of
Scarlet, depending on my mood. Its good for a laugh,
its the fastest way to get 911 to respond, or it
can kill the ficus tree next to the speakers.

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Poster: august_wst Date: May 20, 2013 6:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

"This is her single worst moment with the band."

a bold statement. should we compile a list and compare?

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: May 20, 2013 11:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

Please god, no. Why would anyone want to waste precious hours of their lifetime on such a project? Might as well hunt for Bob's most abrasive MIDI effect, Jerry's biggest brain fart, Keith's most comatose moment, or Brent's most embarrassing meltdown. Why bother?

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Poster: stratocaster Date: May 20, 2013 12:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

still looking for Keith but as for the others:

Garcia 06-18-1995 Wharf Rat
Mydland 04-21-1986 Maybe You Know

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Poster: august_wst Date: May 20, 2013 2:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

HAHAHA!

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Poster: craven714 Date: May 20, 2013 12:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

exactly snow_and_rain
I don't need love and I don't need you...
Why bother indeed? Good point. It is a relative. And
Im just glad we are relatives and we are everywhere

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Poster: august_wst Date: May 20, 2013 2:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

Dude, lighten up. It's all in good fun

And as for Bob, I am going for 10/14/84. It backfired to the point where he chucked his guitar and got a replacement.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: May 20, 2013 6:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

Go for it! However i am extremely confident that this one will come out on top. It is so outrageous it is comical. This is so much more than off key singing or caterwauling. It sounds like she it being murdered on stage. It is too bad because it is otherwise a great '74 Scarlet. So disrespect to the S>F that would follow but Scarlet in '74 had the great bounce to it that disappeared after the break.

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Poster: august_wst Date: May 20, 2013 7:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

Oh, in all fairness to my coworkers and family and anyone else in range, I think this one needs to be a group effort. Let's all find our least favorite!!!!!

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: May 20, 2013 9:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

This somewhat disturbing topic was bandied about in this "oldie but goodie":

http://archive.org/post/69485/best-or-worst-donna-screech

("SDH20" was a temporary poster name change I had made - those who were around may remember the background story)

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Poster: Reade Date: May 20, 2013 1:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

A comment in this old thread reminded me of an odd moment on a 5/28/76 rehearsal tape played on the GDH back in the day.
Can anyone for the love of god explain the sound that happens in the 'Attics' track (5) in roughly the 5:05-5:07 interval? So strange.

http://archive.org/details/gd1976-05-28.rehearsals.gems.82947.flac16


Edit: post link

This post was modified by Reade on 2013-05-20 20:05:35

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: May 20, 2013 2:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

Somebody got a good jolt through their guitar or... Bob's mom came in and tickled his ribs.

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: May 20, 2013 1:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

somebody farted and the smell just reached who ever made that noise...?

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: May 20, 2013 7:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Aint that the truth...

From a post in October 2011 about this very show:

http://archive.org/post/395474/nice-74-that-brings-up-another-one-question-for-jerry

...OK, now on to the question. In the past I once posed the question "What is the worst Donna screech ever?"; well, I think I've found #1 and #2. What she does in Scarlet is, for me, so abhorrent and distasteful I nearly reached down my throat, grabbed my liver, ripped it in two and crammed the pieces in my ears to try and stop the pain. Needless to say I managed to survive and gathered the tattered remains of my frontal lobe together for the rest of the show, confident that the maximum damage had been done already. Wrong. She decides for a reprise in GDTRFB. What small amount of my psyche that had managed to recover from the first wave was ripped apart and scattered to the four winds, the mournful wails of it's dying moments filling the air like the crushed dreams of a thousand crippled orphans. Perhaps I am being too hard, but I call 'em like I see 'em.
Which brings me to the question: "Why? Jerry, with all the musical genious surrounding you every night, could you please explain to me the reason for allowing the howling banshee to have those eruptions of molten despair on a regular basis? So many moments of musical perfection were interuppted by this chaotic and seemingly unrelated interruption that many of us see them as fairly significant speed bumps on an otherwise beautiful ride."
I seriously would love to get his take on it. Perhaps in the next life...

This post was modified by SomeDarkHollow on 2013-05-20 14:15:02

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: May 20, 2013 7:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Aint that the truth...

Yeah, this was one of the first shows i ever wrote about here back in 2007.

http://archive.org/post/145633/ball-4ball-8ball-12-dead-related

I think the humor comments were based on the problems multi-posting trolls who were even stealing identities and other related drama. You know, the usual stuff.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: May 20, 2013 8:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

No contest for Donna's Most Astounding Caterwaul. It is not, however, the worst moment in recorded music history. Too many Biebers and Foreigners ad infinitum to be in the running.

The standard I'm using is that Donna's Astounding Caterwaul has a use. It will clear your sinuses, knock out your enemies and scour your dishes all at once. It slices, dices, and turns ordinary people into google-eyed cartoon characters in a single moment. This, while horrifying, is also impressive.

Whereas Bieber, Foreigner et al will only make you ill. The 5/19 megascreech is not stomach churning. It does cause stomach pain, but that's only because you're too busy laughing.

And there's a built-in Instant Recovery mode, e.g., the rest of the show.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: May 21, 2013 2:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

It is true that it is unintentional comedy at its finest and my reaction, like yours is to laugh. However i think it is still worse than Foreigner and the Bieber et al. As surprising as this may be to you, there are people in the world who actually like Foreigner and Bieber. Many of them would not find the rest of 5-19 as an instant recovery. Yet they would probably have the same reaction to Donna's Scarlet Event as you and I. You know, after that initial fear for her life because it sounds like she was just scorched by a dragon that escaped from Game of Thrones or perhaps just gave birth to a dragon from Game of Thrones, they would also be overcome with laughter.

Therefore if we consider the global lack of good taste in music factor, Donna remains the champ. My 10 year old daughter does not like Bieber, she does like Jerry, although she once described a passage from the 4-24-72 Dark Star as "it sounds like someone is gargling," and she has never heard any Foreigner on my watch, yet I am sure she would have issues with what Donna did that day.

Perhaps you are best positioned to test this given your locale. One day when your bored, grab the boom box and go for a walk. Bring the 5-19 Scarlet, Feels Like the First Time from Foreigner and download some Bieber noise. I suspect you have a unbiased test audience, i.e no one with Bieber-fever, a mullet or a tie-die shirt. See what you find and report back.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: May 21, 2013 4:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

That is a sady logical argument. However, you did say "worst moment in recorded history," not "perceived worst moment." And I submit that "unexposed" doesn't equal "unbiased." This is what my part of the world is biased towards, which wouldn't bode well for Donna Mother of Dragons:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTmF2v59CtI

While I'm at it, here's an oldie but goodie that I'm quite fond of (in case you think bias/exposure is a new thing). While some of you guys were going to bad 90s GD shows, I was enjoying this :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oDRf-rLscY

And now that I'm started down YouTube memory lane, I found this homegrown golden oldie. Ah memories ... it used to be on the radio all the time ... I can even sing this one, kind of. Isn't it sweet how he finally shows up driving his tinselified truck?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK1bug3GshY

There's also an updated version, but it's so horrible it would require a Donna scream to endure it.






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Poster: elbow1126 Date: May 21, 2013 6:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

I love Bollywood and related materials.

Here is one that i believe the wordsmith posted here several years ago. Low res but the interpretation of the lyrics are pretty funny. Even without it, this video is also available in higher res and is just as funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddj1uY6uNpE

here is the high res without the interpretation, i love the first comment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy9eftbGs0U

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: May 21, 2013 8:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

Ohmigosh. I laughed so hard my stomach hurt. Then I had to play it for a few other folks. (Well, because they heard me laughing.) One of whom recognized it as not Bollywood (Hindi) but Tamil, and recognized the guy, who is a huge star apparently, and could understand some of the words ... which are apparently very romantic. Whodathunk?

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 21, 2013 9:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

Oh fricking unreal! How did I miss this the first time around? I will never order Indian food again without thinking of Benny Lava...also, I realize that I came of age in a strange "no talent" dance era...

Do other folks agree? Really, you did NOT have to do anything in my age group...lots of folks since, and even prior, really did have to dance.

Just a thought.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: May 21, 2013 9:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

After listening to that horrendous, cacophony of aural waterboarding some of you refer to as Donna "singing", I am happy to announce I have no plaque on my teeth....

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Poster: birdlives Date: May 20, 2013 5:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

Instead of "hitting" on Donna, perhaps you might desire to question, among just great musicians, why did anyone let Weir play slide??????

Just my quick observation in this thread

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Poster: GibsonES335 Date: May 20, 2013 9:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

this is the wall of sound setup for the show

before (link) and after (file)
http://www.gdao.org/items/show/833437


Attachment: ark-_38305_g47080t8_is_1.jpeg

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Poster: Pig Street ! Date: May 19, 2013 5:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH 1974 Portland

I thought playin' and Saturday night (72-74) drove me nuts but when she started the moan/screaming thru Scarlet that put me over the edge.

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